1 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:05,960 [Music] 2 00:00:11,830 --> 00:00:09,090 welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast 3 00:00:13,910 --> 00:00:11,840 from Australia for science and reason 4 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:13,920 [Music] 5 00:00:28,330 --> 00:00:24,700 hello and welcome to the skeptic zone 6 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:28,340 podcast episode number 440 I wonder what 7 00:00:35,829 --> 00:00:31,369 that means for the numerologists out 8 00:00:39,250 --> 00:00:35,839 there for 40 no 4 plus 48 plus zero is 9 00:00:40,569 --> 00:00:39,260 still eight so it's an eight divide it 10 00:00:44,619 --> 00:00:40,579 by the number your first thought of 11 00:00:47,079 --> 00:00:44,629 which is 362 plus the 60 carrier the two 12 00:00:50,969 --> 00:00:47,089 everywhere welcome to the skeptic zone 13 00:00:53,740 --> 00:00:50,979 episode number 444 the 26th of March 14 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:53,750 2017 Richard Saunders here with you from 15 00:01:01,719 --> 00:00:56,900 Sydney Australia 2 plus there are 2 plus 16 00:01:03,460 --> 00:01:01,729 1 is 3 plus 10 as I don't know it yes 17 00:01:06,550 --> 00:01:03,470 I've been looking into numerology lately 18 00:01:09,219 --> 00:01:06,560 as part of the prediction project I'm 19 00:01:12,010 --> 00:01:09,229 doing this year some people use 20 00:01:14,980 --> 00:01:12,020 numerology to predict the future good 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:14,990 luck more about project prediction and 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:17,770 update from what I told you last week 23 00:01:22,660 --> 00:01:20,930 towards the end of the show it's really 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:22,670 interesting to look at predictions over 25 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:26,210 the last 17 years but we're going to 26 00:01:31,180 --> 00:01:27,920 kick off this week's show with a look at 27 00:01:33,870 --> 00:01:31,190 a device called geo cleanse which is a 28 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:33,880 lump of resin you plug into the wall and 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:37,310 does nothing but it will cost you one 30 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:39,290 hundred and fifty dollars what is it why 31 00:01:43,390 --> 00:01:40,880 are people paying a hundred and fifty 32 00:01:46,090 --> 00:01:43,400 dollars for a block of her plastic or 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:46,100 resin which does nothing find out as we 34 00:01:52,690 --> 00:01:48,290 bring you a review from the good people 35 00:01:55,660 --> 00:01:52,700 at choice magazine oh yes the old orgone 36 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:55,670 energy at it again and following that 37 00:02:00,609 --> 00:01:57,920 it's Heidi Robertson back again with her 38 00:02:03,430 --> 00:02:00,619 raw skeptic report this week she's an 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:03,440 angry gardener no she's so angry she's 40 00:02:07,539 --> 00:02:04,850 looking at something called aggro 41 00:02:10,089 --> 00:02:07,549 homeopathy no this isn't being angry 42 00:02:13,420 --> 00:02:10,099 really it's to do with treating plants 43 00:02:16,660 --> 00:02:13,430 with magical sugar water yes homeopathy 44 00:02:18,729 --> 00:02:16,670 for plants what's that about sounds 45 00:02:20,710 --> 00:02:18,739 pretty crazy to me find out with the raw 46 00:02:22,750 --> 00:02:20,720 skeptic report a little bit later on in 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:22,760 the show also this week we have some 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:24,890 more brouhaha for you with kelly wang 49 00:02:30,220 --> 00:02:28,610 from australia science TV Kelly's going 50 00:02:32,740 --> 00:02:30,230 to be looking at the latest in 51 00:02:37,030 --> 00:02:32,750 mation the latest discoveries about 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:37,040 dinosaurs and could cause a rethink of 53 00:02:44,789 --> 00:02:41,810 the dinosaur family tree interesting 54 00:02:48,430 --> 00:02:44,799 stuff brouhaha coming up a bit later on 55 00:02:52,420 --> 00:02:48,440 now I was unable to do my regular radio 56 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:52,430 spot this week here in Sydney so uh the 57 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:54,530 last moment Tim mendham who we often 58 00:02:58,780 --> 00:02:55,910 quote here on the skeptic zone and you 59 00:03:01,330 --> 00:02:58,790 hear from time to time filled in for me 60 00:03:04,210 --> 00:03:01,340 and he was talking to Mike Williams 61 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:04,220 about cryptozoology Bigfoot monsters 62 00:03:09,699 --> 00:03:06,170 Loch Ness big cats all that sort of 63 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:09,709 stuff and you can listen to Tim's 64 00:03:15,099 --> 00:03:13,609 segment by visiting skeptic zone TV and 65 00:03:17,559 --> 00:03:15,109 looking at the show notes for this 66 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:17,569 week's episode and you'll find it at the 67 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:20,329 bottom of the running order do creatures 68 00:03:24,729 --> 00:03:22,090 like Bigfoot and Loch Ness monster 69 00:03:26,770 --> 00:03:24,739 exists and speaking of our other 70 00:03:29,170 --> 00:03:26,780 skeptical type people my very good 71 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:29,180 friend Ian Bryce from Australian 72 00:03:33,699 --> 00:03:31,310 skeptics will be visiting Melbourne 73 00:03:36,670 --> 00:03:33,709 pretty soon and he'll be giving a public 74 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:36,680 talk at the more d alec skeptics on the 75 00:03:43,180 --> 00:03:40,250 11th of april all about gravity waves 76 00:03:47,229 --> 00:03:43,190 hitting he knows a lot he knows more 77 00:03:50,140 --> 00:03:47,239 about gravity waves then well me or you 78 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:50,150 my bet he's very knowledgeable very 79 00:03:54,460 --> 00:03:52,310 knowledgeable man if you want to hear 80 00:03:56,500 --> 00:03:54,470 his talk all about gravity waves on the 81 00:03:59,289 --> 00:03:56,510 11th of april check out the maury 82 00:04:01,599 --> 00:03:59,299 skeptics and i'll supply a link on the 83 00:04:05,129 --> 00:04:01,609 show notes or just go to facebook and do 84 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:05,139 a search for Morty skeptics mor di 85 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:08,329 skeptics oh and all my excitement for 86 00:04:12,729 --> 00:04:09,769 this week I forgot to give you a weather 87 00:04:15,580 --> 00:04:12,739 update for Sydney hot and steamy the 88 00:04:18,490 --> 00:04:15,590 rain has gone away for the moment gopher 89 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:18,500 we've had a wet March so far and has 90 00:04:21,940 --> 00:04:20,239 been replaced by bright brilliant 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:21,950 sunshine which of course is making 92 00:04:26,740 --> 00:04:23,690 everything steamy you should see the 93 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:26,750 grass by the way around sydney because 94 00:04:34,330 --> 00:04:31,849 it's been so wet and so warm the grass 95 00:04:35,980 --> 00:04:34,340 in the parks and on the near the 96 00:04:39,070 --> 00:04:35,990 footpaths the sidewalks has just gone 97 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:39,080 crazy it's a jungle out there but today 98 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:40,849 at least the sun is shining which is 99 00:04:45,940 --> 00:04:43,930 good for washing yes it's good for 100 00:04:49,090 --> 00:04:45,950 but now it's time for me to run 101 00:04:52,690 --> 00:04:49,100 downstairs and fix myself some poached 102 00:04:56,250 --> 00:04:52,700 eggs on wholemeal toast or sourdough 103 00:04:59,860 --> 00:04:56,260 toast I think with a side of mushrooms 104 00:05:02,520 --> 00:04:59,870 bit of pepper just a splash of Tabasco 105 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:02,530 sauce because I like that sort of stuff 106 00:05:07,450 --> 00:05:04,730 mmm sounds pretty good to me while I'm 107 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:07,460 enjoying that I hope you enjoy the 108 00:05:29,249 --> 00:05:08,800 skeptic zone 109 00:05:32,770 --> 00:05:29,259 [Music] 110 00:05:36,010 --> 00:05:32,780 as longtime skeptic zone listeners will 111 00:05:38,589 --> 00:05:36,020 certainly know every year sometimes 112 00:05:41,499 --> 00:05:38,599 twice a year I another skeptics like to 113 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:41,509 go to the local festival of mind body 114 00:05:46,629 --> 00:05:43,610 spirit otherwise known to us of course 115 00:05:49,540 --> 00:05:46,639 as mind-body wallet one of the companies 116 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:49,550 I've seen exhibited and selling products 117 00:05:56,890 --> 00:05:52,969 a year after year as a company called or 118 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:56,900 gone effects Australia now this is an 119 00:06:02,399 --> 00:05:58,849 outfit that sells no end of products 120 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:02,409 based around the mythical orgone energy 121 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:07,550 something invented or dreamt up by one 122 00:06:13,450 --> 00:06:11,449 vilhelm Reich last century and I'll go 123 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:13,460 into a bit more of that next week I 124 00:06:17,020 --> 00:06:15,050 think because there is more to this 125 00:06:19,930 --> 00:06:17,030 story than will cover today now they 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:19,940 sell wrist bands which harmonize your 127 00:06:26,379 --> 00:06:23,690 body mobile phone and Wi-Fi radiation 128 00:06:28,529 --> 00:06:26,389 Harmonizers a little sticky you put on 129 00:06:34,719 --> 00:06:28,539 the back of your watch which is a 130 00:06:37,180 --> 00:06:34,729 harmonizer somehow lots of resin 131 00:06:41,769 --> 00:06:37,190 pendants and things like that ionic shoe 132 00:06:44,110 --> 00:06:41,779 insoles car EMR Harmonizers schumann 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:44,120 generators which looks like to be a blob 134 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:47,650 of resin once again aircraft cabin 135 00:06:54,219 --> 00:06:50,479 harmonizes another block of resin water 136 00:06:57,309 --> 00:06:54,229 and food energizer plates ionic 137 00:06:59,649 --> 00:06:57,319 toothbrush however that works I can't 138 00:07:02,170 --> 00:06:59,659 imagine a patch you can stick into the 139 00:07:05,830 --> 00:07:02,180 back of your shirt cloth harmonize a 140 00:07:07,749 --> 00:07:05,840 patch the list goes on but it would 141 00:07:12,399 --> 00:07:07,759 appear one of their better selling items 142 00:07:14,740 --> 00:07:12,409 is the Geo cleanse home harmonizer for a 143 00:07:16,930 --> 00:07:14,750 hundred and fifty dollars this is a 144 00:07:20,050 --> 00:07:16,940 block of resin about an inch by two 145 00:07:22,959 --> 00:07:20,060 inches or something like five 146 00:07:26,050 --> 00:07:22,969 centimeters by 10 centimeters and it 147 00:07:29,860 --> 00:07:26,060 plugs into a power outlet and 148 00:07:32,050 --> 00:07:29,870 if I remember what I was told you don't 149 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:32,060 even have to turn the power outlet on 150 00:07:36,550 --> 00:07:35,210 for this thing to have an effect hmm so 151 00:07:38,860 --> 00:07:36,560 confident are the company in this 152 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:38,870 product they even produced a short 153 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:41,120 commercial which I'll play now feeling 154 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:43,370 physical symptoms of lethargy nausea 155 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:45,650 headaches and other discomfort it could 156 00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:47,570 be from the electromagnetic radiation 157 00:07:51,610 --> 00:07:49,310 being emitted from your digital TV 158 00:07:53,980 --> 00:07:51,620 screen or microwave geo cleanse is a 159 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:53,990 solid-state negative ion generator it 160 00:07:57,850 --> 00:07:55,850 balances the positive i am known as 161 00:07:59,500 --> 00:07:57,860 harmful energy with so many appliances 162 00:08:01,960 --> 00:07:59,510 in your home emitting electromagnetic 163 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:01,970 energy the wise move to protect your 164 00:08:06,219 --> 00:08:03,770 family's health is to invest energy 165 00:08:08,980 --> 00:08:06,229 oaklands well some months ago after 166 00:08:11,530 --> 00:08:08,990 seeing this company or going effects 167 00:08:14,740 --> 00:08:11,540 once more at the mind-body wallet 168 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:14,750 festival in fact the bizarre thing is 169 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:16,370 and i'll be covering more of this next 170 00:08:23,590 --> 00:08:21,680 week as soon as they saw me walking 171 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:23,600 along the particular aisle where their 172 00:08:29,650 --> 00:08:26,810 their store was they ran and got 173 00:08:31,420 --> 00:08:29,660 security so by the time I actually 174 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:31,430 reached their store they had a security 175 00:08:39,490 --> 00:08:34,130 guard that so I couldn't even talk to 176 00:08:41,829 --> 00:08:39,500 them why because last year I spoke to 177 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:41,839 one of the representatives for about 10 178 00:08:47,079 --> 00:08:44,240 minutes or so explaining my point of 179 00:08:50,020 --> 00:08:47,089 view and offering him the Australian 180 00:08:52,090 --> 00:08:50,030 skeptics $100,000 prize which he 181 00:08:56,050 --> 00:08:52,100 listened you listen to me and it was all 182 00:08:58,780 --> 00:08:56,060 very civil but haha you can do strange 183 00:09:00,700 --> 00:08:58,790 things and it appears now the last thing 184 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:00,710 they want is skeptical attention I 185 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:03,410 wonder why if their products work I 186 00:09:08,260 --> 00:09:06,770 wonder why but it appears that the 187 00:09:11,890 --> 00:09:08,270 Australian skeptics aren't the only 188 00:09:13,570 --> 00:09:11,900 people who are somewhat skeptical of the 189 00:09:15,850 --> 00:09:13,580 products being sold by organ effects 190 00:09:19,329 --> 00:09:15,860 Australia and our friends at choice 191 00:09:22,329 --> 00:09:19,339 magazine have reviewed this geo cleanse 192 00:09:28,750 --> 00:09:22,339 device and this appears on the choice 193 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:28,760 website wwwcom a you and an article by 194 00:09:35,650 --> 00:09:32,450 Ashley I adale and don't forget that 195 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:35,660 choice magazine is completely 196 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:38,330 independent although they can receive 197 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:39,510 tips 198 00:09:42,380 --> 00:09:41,040 about products from members of the 199 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:42,390 public in fact I think they're quite 200 00:09:47,450 --> 00:09:44,550 happy to receive tips on products by 201 00:09:51,230 --> 00:09:47,460 members of the public after that it's 202 00:09:52,940 --> 00:09:51,240 completely at arm's length so if a 203 00:09:55,070 --> 00:09:52,950 certain skeptic you may have heard about 204 00:09:59,390 --> 00:09:55,080 actually tipped them off to this product 205 00:10:03,020 --> 00:09:59,400 that was the last this certain skeptic 206 00:10:05,390 --> 00:10:03,030 would have heard about it until until we 207 00:10:08,930 --> 00:10:05,400 read on their website published on the 208 00:10:12,410 --> 00:10:08,940 6th of March 2017 geo cleanse home 209 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:12,420 harmonizer review does this device help 210 00:10:18,410 --> 00:10:14,250 you feel less physically and emotionally 211 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:18,420 drained or does it just drain your bank 212 00:10:24,770 --> 00:10:22,410 account good vibes guaranteed the Geo 213 00:10:27,290 --> 00:10:24,780 cleanse home harmonizer promises to 214 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:27,300 neutralize electromagnetic radiation 215 00:10:33,790 --> 00:10:31,110 radio frequencies and cosmic energy all 216 00:10:36,590 --> 00:10:33,800 of which can apparently SAP your energy 217 00:10:39,350 --> 00:10:36,600 rob you of sleep and drain your life 218 00:10:42,650 --> 00:10:39,360 force in our modern world these things 219 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:42,660 are impossible to avoid but this solid 220 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:45,210 block of plastic promises to bring an 221 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:49,290 end to your suffering do you need it the 222 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:51,810 sunlight glints off the hologram in your 223 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:54,690 powerband wristband as you pilot your 224 00:11:00,140 --> 00:10:56,850 energy polarizer equipped brougt 225 00:11:02,930 --> 00:11:00,150 commodore homewood you're confident that 226 00:11:05,780 --> 00:11:02,940 the energy flows of both your car and 227 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:05,790 occupant are safely aligned but you're 228 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:08,450 still troubled you wonder to yourself 229 00:11:14,270 --> 00:11:11,430 your family having long since refused to 230 00:11:16,970 --> 00:11:14,280 travel with you how you can read your 231 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:16,980 home and or office of negative effects 232 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:19,440 of electromagnetic radiation while at 233 00:11:24,830 --> 00:11:22,410 the same time freeing your wallet of 234 00:11:26,780 --> 00:11:24,840 that bird ism one hundred and fifty 235 00:11:29,420 --> 00:11:26,790 dollars for which you have no useful 236 00:11:32,510 --> 00:11:29,430 purpose luckily all gone affects 237 00:11:38,180 --> 00:11:32,520 Australia has the solution introducing 238 00:11:41,390 --> 00:11:38,190 Geo cleanse so what is it a solid block 239 00:11:44,420 --> 00:11:41,400 of green plastic resin with a plug 240 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:44,430 molded into the back geo cleanses sold 241 00:11:49,820 --> 00:11:47,010 as a quote geo pathak stress and 242 00:11:51,980 --> 00:11:49,830 electromagnetic radiation harmonizer end 243 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:51,990 quote when plugged into the power point 244 00:11:56,870 --> 00:11:53,340 its claim to new 245 00:12:00,560 --> 00:11:56,880 relies the effects of a startlingly long 246 00:12:04,340 --> 00:12:00,570 list of supposedly harmful radiation and 247 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:04,350 radio and electromagnetic frequencies 248 00:12:11,950 --> 00:12:07,320 from sources such as Wi-Fi mobile phone 249 00:12:16,370 --> 00:12:11,960 towers death in prints and negative 250 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:16,380 psychic impressions solar flares your 251 00:12:21,530 --> 00:12:18,810 home's smart meter and even your 252 00:12:23,780 --> 00:12:21,540 neighbors television unlike other fake 253 00:12:25,340 --> 00:12:23,790 energy Harmonizers which all gone 254 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:25,350 effects Australia claimed can only 255 00:12:32,180 --> 00:12:28,830 create imaginary energy balancing fields 256 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:32,190 of 6 meters or less geo cleansers claim 257 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:34,530 to harmonize electromagnetic radiation 258 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:36,570 fields and energy and printing from 259 00:12:41,660 --> 00:12:39,420 electrical appliances wiring and power 260 00:12:44,450 --> 00:12:41,670 lines up to 200 metres from your 261 00:12:47,540 --> 00:12:44,460 property and the earth magnetic grid 262 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:47,550 lines up to 400 meters away 263 00:12:51,620 --> 00:12:50,010 coincidentally this is how why do the 264 00:12:54,650 --> 00:12:51,630 birth your friends will give you once 265 00:12:57,230 --> 00:12:54,660 you explain the benefits of your 266 00:12:59,780 --> 00:12:57,240 expensive new doorstop a single geo 267 00:13:02,420 --> 00:12:59,790 cleanse home harmonizer is even powerful 268 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:02,430 enough to harmonize interdimensional 269 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:05,130 imprinting radiation personal beams and 270 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:07,110 a variety of other made up stuff for up 271 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:10,890 to 12 acres or for an entire 59 storey 272 00:13:17,210 --> 00:13:14,250 building still not convinced the proof 273 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:17,220 lies in impressive Kirlian biofeedback 274 00:13:22,730 --> 00:13:20,370 photography and dubious technique which 275 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:22,740 is claimed to capture a subjects mood 276 00:13:28,870 --> 00:13:25,590 and well-being on film a claim which 277 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:28,880 various studies have repeatedly debunked 278 00:13:33,770 --> 00:13:31,650 digging into the pseudo science behind 279 00:13:36,170 --> 00:13:33,780 Geo cleanse reveals it's based on 280 00:13:38,420 --> 00:13:36,180 principles of autonomy which is 281 00:13:41,690 --> 00:13:38,430 described as the field of esoteric 282 00:13:46,010 --> 00:13:41,700 energy or hypothetical universal life 283 00:13:49,610 --> 00:13:46,020 force organ ami was pioneered by dr. 284 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:49,620 Wilhelm Reich an Austrian psychoanalyst 285 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:52,170 who died while serving time for refusing 286 00:13:56,570 --> 00:13:53,850 to obey an injunction against selling 287 00:13:59,030 --> 00:13:56,580 quack medical devices ergonomic 288 00:14:01,700 --> 00:13:59,040 principles also inspired the 289 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:01,710 aforementioned Brock energy polarizer a 290 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:04,320 device of magnets and crystals that the 291 00:14:09,249 --> 00:14:06,410 australian car racing champ Peter 292 00:14:13,660 --> 00:14:09,259 Rock claimed improved car performance 293 00:14:16,090 --> 00:14:13,670 and as a side note Peter Brock won the 294 00:14:18,730 --> 00:14:16,100 Australian skeptics bent spoon award for 295 00:14:22,540 --> 00:14:18,740 this claim way back in the 1980s choice 296 00:14:25,319 --> 00:14:22,550 testing excited to rid the choice labs 297 00:14:28,030 --> 00:14:25,329 of the imprints of previous occupants 298 00:14:29,949 --> 00:14:28,040 emotional distress and illness we put 299 00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:29,959 Geo cleanse through its paces in a 300 00:14:35,230 --> 00:14:32,240 laboratory setting using sensitive 301 00:14:40,269 --> 00:14:35,240 instruments to test every measurable 302 00:14:42,249 --> 00:14:40,279 claim we tested geo cleansers impact on 303 00:14:44,499 --> 00:14:42,259 the Earth's magnetic field by placing it 304 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:44,509 next to a sensitive magnetic compass and 305 00:14:50,530 --> 00:14:46,850 measuring the deviation of the compass 306 00:14:53,949 --> 00:14:50,540 needle the needle was unmoved as we have 307 00:14:55,629 --> 00:14:53,959 been by geo cleansers claims we measured 308 00:14:58,110 --> 00:14:55,639 where the Geo cleanse increased the 309 00:15:00,939 --> 00:14:58,120 number of photons in the atmosphere by 310 00:15:03,970 --> 00:15:00,949 suspending a light meter over it as we 311 00:15:06,220 --> 00:15:03,980 turned it on and off even in a darkened 312 00:15:09,009 --> 00:15:06,230 room we found the lack of any measurable 313 00:15:10,809 --> 00:15:09,019 change was most enlightening we measured 314 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:10,819 its ability to increase the oxygen 315 00:15:16,389 --> 00:15:13,850 levels in a room by comparing oxygen 316 00:15:19,990 --> 00:15:16,399 levels after using the Geo cleanse for 317 00:15:23,740 --> 00:15:20,000 five minutes as a baseline oxygen was at 318 00:15:26,410 --> 00:15:23,750 a constant 20.9 percent for both results 319 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:26,420 so this claim turned out to be full of 320 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:29,810 hot air we measured geo cleanse effects 321 00:15:35,199 --> 00:15:32,959 on electromagnetic fields from a 322 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:35,209 computer monitor and a power transformer 323 00:15:41,170 --> 00:15:39,110 using a multi field EMF meter both 324 00:15:44,410 --> 00:15:41,180 electrical appliances generated strong 325 00:15:46,809 --> 00:15:44,420 EMF fields but we found geo cleansers 326 00:15:49,780 --> 00:15:46,819 inability to make any difference quite 327 00:15:52,030 --> 00:15:49,790 shocking as geo cleanse is said to be 328 00:15:54,970 --> 00:15:52,040 effective because it generates negative 329 00:15:57,999 --> 00:15:54,980 ions we compared it to a known source of 330 00:15:59,889 --> 00:15:58,009 negative ions with an electro meter 331 00:16:02,769 --> 00:15:59,899 despite strong performance from our 332 00:16:06,759 --> 00:16:02,779 commercial negative ion generator geo 333 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:06,769 cleanse generated no ions whatsoever and 334 00:16:12,549 --> 00:16:09,769 the only thing negative was our opinion 335 00:16:14,049 --> 00:16:12,559 of it finally we even conducted one of 336 00:16:17,049 --> 00:16:14,059 all gone effects Australia's own 337 00:16:20,290 --> 00:16:17,059 recommended tests placing the palm of 338 00:16:22,690 --> 00:16:20,300 your hand on a fringe with geo cleanse 339 00:16:25,510 --> 00:16:22,700 the fridge toucha should experience a 340 00:16:28,660 --> 00:16:25,520 calming energizing sensation through the 341 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:28,670 body our test subjects despite extensive 342 00:16:35,290 --> 00:16:32,090 experience touching fridges reported no 343 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:35,300 effect however we did substantiate one 344 00:16:40,690 --> 00:16:37,970 of geo cleansers claims that it uses 345 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:40,700 absolutely no power hardly surprising 346 00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:43,610 for an inert lump of plastic but it does 347 00:16:48,220 --> 00:16:45,920 beg the question as to why you need to 348 00:16:50,170 --> 00:16:48,230 plug it in at all perhaps it's to 349 00:16:54,010 --> 00:16:50,180 distract you from the large sum of money 350 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:54,020 you just wasted choice verdict our 351 00:16:59,260 --> 00:16:56,210 testing shows geo cleanse has all the 352 00:17:01,240 --> 00:16:59,270 effectiveness of a tin foil hat but 353 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:01,250 lacks the hats potential to be used for 354 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:04,250 food preparation so if you are thinking 355 00:17:08,110 --> 00:17:06,050 of blowing a hundred and fifty dollars 356 00:17:11,410 --> 00:17:08,120 on the block of plastic with a plug on 357 00:17:14,170 --> 00:17:11,420 it why not buy a roll of aluminium foil 358 00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:14,180 instead the money you save could buy you 359 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:17,600 a subscription to choice a resource 360 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:25,130 that's been proven to work and that 361 00:17:29,170 --> 00:17:27,050 review of the Geo cleanse from all gone 362 00:17:32,130 --> 00:17:29,180 effects Australia was brought to us by 363 00:17:35,020 --> 00:17:32,140 the good people at choice magazine a 364 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:35,030 magazine I read regularly here in 365 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:36,890 Australia and I encourage you if you're 366 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:38,210 in Australia to visit their website 367 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:42,290 choice comte you and why not become a 368 00:17:46,540 --> 00:17:44,570 subscriber they do independent testing 369 00:17:49,630 --> 00:17:46,550 as i said before of a range of consumer 370 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:49,640 products and it's a great benchmark if 371 00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:51,410 you're interested in buying something 372 00:17:56,590 --> 00:17:54,350 new but more about orgone effects 373 00:18:01,370 --> 00:17:56,600 australia and some of the other 374 00:18:16,580 --> 00:18:13,180 [Music] 375 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:16,590 calling all skeptics or listeners do you 376 00:18:21,260 --> 00:18:18,960 live in or near Glasgow or are you 377 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:21,270 planning to visit something then you're 378 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:23,730 in luck because it Glasgow skeptics I've 379 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:26,970 got your monday nights sorted we are 380 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:28,650 committed to filling up every available 381 00:18:33,980 --> 00:18:30,930 Monday night talks on science and 382 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:33,990 skepticism past speakers include Eugenie 383 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:36,210 Scott Jerry Coyne maker Marshall neat 384 00:18:40,970 --> 00:18:38,250 Phelps torment Cecil from cognitive 385 00:18:43,670 --> 00:18:40,980 dissonance PZ Myers Richard Wiseman a 386 00:18:46,220 --> 00:18:43,680 sea drilling nor Heath and Eli from the 387 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:46,230 scaling atheist Simon Singh rebecca 388 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:48,510 watson and a multitude of local 389 00:18:52,970 --> 00:18:51,330 academics and skeptics there's literally 390 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:52,980 nothing better you can do on a monday 391 00:18:57,620 --> 00:18:55,290 night in classical it doesn't involve 392 00:18:59,780 --> 00:18:57,630 taking your clothes off so come join us 393 00:19:01,760 --> 00:18:59,790 we've also got a vibrant online 394 00:19:03,620 --> 00:19:01,770 community you can find us on facebook 395 00:19:06,620 --> 00:19:03,630 twitter and get involved with the 396 00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:06,630 discussion class go skeptics self-help 397 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:08,320 for your brain 398 00:19:15,390 --> 00:19:13,490 [Music] 399 00:19:24,669 --> 00:19:15,400 [Applause] 400 00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:28,639 it's the raw skeptic report with Heidi 401 00:19:39,649 --> 00:19:38,190 Robertson hello everyone it's Heidi 402 00:19:43,639 --> 00:19:39,659 Robertson from the Northern Rivers 403 00:19:46,810 --> 00:19:43,649 vaccination supporters skeptics know all 404 00:19:50,509 --> 00:19:46,820 about the improbability of homeopathy 405 00:19:53,330 --> 00:19:50,519 the principles of like cures like and 406 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:53,340 sir kush in' involving the original 407 00:19:58,070 --> 00:19:55,529 active ingredient being progressively 408 00:20:01,159 --> 00:19:58,080 diluted and therefore somehow more 409 00:20:05,180 --> 00:20:01,169 potent as the water retains a memory of 410 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:05,190 the original active ingredient often the 411 00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:07,529 end product will contain no trace of the 412 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:09,720 original substance in it it is literally 413 00:20:15,289 --> 00:20:12,000 a sugar pill or liquid that is given to 414 00:20:18,110 --> 00:20:15,299 the patient to cure all of the ills it's 415 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:18,120 easy to laugh at this modality the 416 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:21,210 absurdity of it the kind of witchcraft 417 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:24,690 like vibe of it until you consider how 418 00:20:30,049 --> 00:20:26,370 dangerous it can be in certain 419 00:20:32,659 --> 00:20:30,059 situations but how can it be dangerous 420 00:20:35,779 --> 00:20:32,669 taking a sugar pill with no active 421 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:35,789 ingredient you ask let me give you just 422 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:40,710 a couple of real life examples a friend 423 00:20:45,159 --> 00:20:42,450 of mine suffers from a life-threatening 424 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:45,169 allergy otherwise known as anaphylaxis 425 00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,210 his reaction is as a result of tick 426 00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:50,880 bites he's allergic to a protein in the 427 00:20:55,659 --> 00:20:53,039 ticker saliva which is injected as the 428 00:20:58,820 --> 00:20:55,669 ticket draws blood out to feed itself 429 00:21:01,159 --> 00:20:58,830 anaphylaxis commonly occurs seconds to 430 00:21:02,779 --> 00:21:01,169 minutes after exposure resulting in 431 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:02,789 swelling of the airways and a dangerous 432 00:21:08,419 --> 00:21:06,090 drop in blood pressure his reaction is 433 00:21:10,190 --> 00:21:08,429 so severe that he has had to put his 434 00:21:13,610 --> 00:21:10,200 country house on the market to move 435 00:21:16,129 --> 00:21:13,620 closer to a hospital in town he's had a 436 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:16,139 couple of close calls before on one 437 00:21:20,210 --> 00:21:17,970 occasion his breathing was extremely 438 00:21:22,190 --> 00:21:20,220 labored he was blue and losing 439 00:21:24,610 --> 00:21:22,200 consciousness when the ambulance got to 440 00:21:27,260 --> 00:21:24,620 him of course he carries his adrenaline 441 00:21:29,180 --> 00:21:27,270 auto-injector everywhere with him and he 442 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:29,190 had to self inject on more than one 443 00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:32,010 occasion there have been many instances 444 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:34,260 that I've personally seen as a paramedic 445 00:21:38,150 --> 00:21:36,570 where the person has no time to even get 446 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:38,160 to their bag to get the adrenaline 447 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:40,890 that's how quickly these reactions can 448 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:43,770 happen in fact the adrenaline 449 00:21:48,830 --> 00:21:46,050 auto-injector we use in Australia called 450 00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:48,840 the EpiPen has had a change of design 451 00:21:54,580 --> 00:21:51,780 from cylindrical to oval shaped as a 452 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:54,590 result of an incident here in Australia 453 00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,490 there was a lady that had an 454 00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:58,320 anaphylactic reaction whilst alone in 455 00:22:03,530 --> 00:22:00,720 her house she reached up top of her 456 00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,540 fridge to retrieve her EpiPen dropped it 457 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:06,240 it rolled under the fridge and she was 458 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:09,890 unable to reach it she died as a result 459 00:22:16,010 --> 00:22:12,210 ok so there's no question that 460 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:16,020 anaphylaxis is not to be trifled with so 461 00:22:19,820 --> 00:22:17,850 this friend of mine with a diagnosed and 462 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,830 if Alexis had another well-meaning 463 00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:21,840 friend who took it upon themselves to 464 00:22:28,430 --> 00:22:24,780 visit a verbal medicinal shop to get him 465 00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,440 something to treat his anaphylaxis he 466 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,480 was given a homeopathic preparation by 467 00:22:35,060 --> 00:22:33,120 the homeopath or naturopath on duty who 468 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:35,070 did not feel it was necessary to see the 469 00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:37,530 actual patient or ask any further 470 00:22:42,650 --> 00:22:40,470 questions furthermore the preparation 471 00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:42,660 came with verbal instructions to take it 472 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:44,820 prior to his EpiPen when having a 473 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:47,370 life-threatening reaction the person was 474 00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:50,010 told to tell my anaphylactic friend that 475 00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:51,780 if he took the sugar water quickly 476 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:54,000 enough he was probably not going to need 477 00:23:01,040 --> 00:22:58,050 the EpiPen at all the remedy was a 30 C 478 00:23:08,780 --> 00:23:01,050 preparation of now let me pronounce this 479 00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:08,790 badly EXO DS hollow Colossus which is a 480 00:23:13,670 --> 00:23:11,660 species of Australian paralysis tick 481 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:13,680 Hanuman the founder of homeopathy 482 00:23:21,130 --> 00:23:17,250 thought that 30c delusions were most 483 00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:21,140 effective for most homeopathic remedies 484 00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:23,460 the homeopathic remedy that is 485 00:23:28,550 --> 00:23:25,680 reasonably likely to contain just one 486 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:28,560 molecule of the original substance is 12 487 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:33,450 C so we can be pretty assured that a 30 488 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:37,250 C dilution contains none of the original 489 00:23:42,650 --> 00:23:40,770 ingredient so 490 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:42,660 essentially my friend was given sugary 491 00:23:47,090 --> 00:23:44,850 magic water for a life-threatening 492 00:23:48,770 --> 00:23:47,100 condition without having been seen by 493 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:48,780 the practitioner who thought it was 494 00:23:53,270 --> 00:23:50,940 perfectly reasonable to just pass it on 495 00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:53,280 with the verbal instructions via a third 496 00:24:00,140 --> 00:23:57,840 party not at all dodgy right I found out 497 00:24:02,030 --> 00:24:00,150 about all this accidentally when I was 498 00:24:05,060 --> 00:24:02,040 chatting to him one day and the subject 499 00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:05,070 of his anaphylaxis came up needless to 500 00:24:09,290 --> 00:24:07,200 say i put a complaint into the H Triple 501 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:09,300 C which resulted in them calling the 502 00:24:14,270 --> 00:24:11,610 herbal shop who denied the entire 503 00:24:16,610 --> 00:24:14,280 incident had ever taken place despite 504 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:16,620 photos I had sent in of the magic water 505 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:18,810 preparation with their place of business 506 00:24:24,350 --> 00:24:22,170 clearly labeled on the bottle the aged 507 00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:24,360 Triple C told them to please not do it 508 00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:28,100 again a rather frustrating outcome 509 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:30,030 anecdotally have heard that they have 510 00:24:35,210 --> 00:24:33,090 done similar things since another friend 511 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:35,220 recently contacted me asking whom to 512 00:24:39,950 --> 00:24:37,320 complain to after the same herbal 513 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,960 medicinal shop had prescribed a range of 514 00:24:44,660 --> 00:24:41,760 naturopathic preparations for her 515 00:24:48,290 --> 00:24:44,670 psychotic son who subsequently had to be 516 00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,300 hospitalized listeners may also be aware 517 00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:50,400 of homeo prophylaxis which involves 518 00:24:55,010 --> 00:24:51,900 homeopathic remedies that are designed 519 00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,020 to replace vaccinations that's right 520 00:24:59,540 --> 00:24:57,600 sugar pills or liquid that they claim 521 00:25:02,270 --> 00:24:59,550 will protect children and babies against 522 00:25:04,610 --> 00:25:02,280 diphtheria whooping cough measles and so 523 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:04,620 on travelers can get home yet 524 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:07,410 prophylaxis to even purchased online if 525 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:09,450 traveling to countries or regions where 526 00:25:15,010 --> 00:25:12,480 malaria is endemic they can also order a 527 00:25:17,330 --> 00:25:15,020 homeopathic first aid kit to go with it 528 00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:17,340 it's clear to see how this brand of 529 00:25:22,610 --> 00:25:19,320 homeopathy is potentially extremely 530 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:22,620 dangerous as well and may give people a 531 00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:24,690 false sense of security that they and 532 00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:27,120 their kids are actually protected when 533 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:29,310 they most definitely are not from 534 00:25:35,030 --> 00:25:32,730 infectious diseases there are some 535 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:35,040 applications for homeopathy that can 536 00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:37,770 safely be mocked and ridiculed rather 537 00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,310 than scaring the bejesus out of us the 538 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:43,200 other day actually it was the other 539 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:45,510 month actually it was last year that's 540 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:46,890 how long I've been meaning to do this 541 00:25:52,910 --> 00:25:50,640 report i was up at my local cafe having 542 00:25:54,530 --> 00:25:52,920 ordered a morning maca and as i was 543 00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:54,540 waiting I grabbed a copy 544 00:25:59,210 --> 00:25:56,310 of one of the local rags that have been 545 00:26:01,040 --> 00:25:59,220 left on the table I often have a look at 546 00:26:03,470 --> 00:26:01,050 this particular newspaper to see what 547 00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:03,480 new weird and wacky pseudoscience has 548 00:26:08,780 --> 00:26:05,220 been spawned in the northern rivers 549 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:08,790 lately so this particular morning as I 550 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:10,650 was perusing the services offered by 551 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:13,770 local crystal healers psychics thought 552 00:26:18,260 --> 00:26:16,470 leaders and remote horse healers I saw 553 00:26:21,050 --> 00:26:18,270 something I had not encountered before 554 00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:21,060 and nearly sustained a burn to my left 555 00:26:30,290 --> 00:26:25,200 nostril as I snorted my hot mocker have 556 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:30,300 you ever heard of agro homeopathy no 557 00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:33,330 it's not sugar water that is really 558 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:36,150 really angry although i think i will 559 00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:39,330 refer to it now as angry gardening it's 560 00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:43,020 homeopathy for your garden I'll read out 561 00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:45,780 bits of the article I'll change my voice 562 00:26:50,030 --> 00:26:47,460 a smidge when I come to the usual 563 00:26:53,930 --> 00:26:50,040 anti-science tropes which I'm sure you 564 00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:53,940 will all recognize quote aggro 565 00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:56,760 homeopathy is the use of homeopathic 566 00:27:01,310 --> 00:26:59,760 remedies on plants a google search will 567 00:27:04,090 --> 00:27:01,320 give you twenty eight thousand results 568 00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:04,100 as more and more people move away from 569 00:27:09,620 --> 00:27:07,070 chemicals and their inherent dangers 570 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:09,630 toward natural therapies for themselves 571 00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,570 their pets and their gardens for too 572 00:27:17,540 --> 00:27:14,720 long now we have seen their so-called 573 00:27:20,030 --> 00:27:17,550 experts fiddling with our food to the 574 00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:20,040 point where much of it like genetically 575 00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:23,700 modified food as cards are forming many 576 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:26,790 people are waking up to the fact that 577 00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:28,320 they are doing their families a great 578 00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:31,440 favor simply by growing a few organic 579 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:34,110 veggies so let's take a closer look at 580 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:37,850 agro therapy which is a chemical free 581 00:27:44,060 --> 00:27:41,490 non-toxic method of growing food and any 582 00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:44,070 other crops because agro therapy makes 583 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:45,960 your plants resistant to disease and 584 00:27:51,950 --> 00:27:48,720 pests by strengthening them from the 585 00:27:54,260 --> 00:27:51,960 inside out agri therapy helps to 586 00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:54,270 strengthen the plant structure and inner 587 00:28:01,970 --> 00:27:57,510 workings to achieve optimal health end 588 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:01,980 quote so I looked further online to see 589 00:28:05,930 --> 00:28:03,450 what other people had written about 590 00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:05,940 angry gardening and it came as no 591 00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:08,340 surprise that the website homie 592 00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:11,520 d plus run by Fran Sheffield has weighed 593 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:13,980 in on the topic listeners may recall 594 00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:15,570 that the federal court of australia has 595 00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:17,520 found that homeopathy + and fran 596 00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:20,460 sheffield quote engaged in conduct that 597 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:22,470 was misleading and deceptive always 598 00:28:27,019 --> 00:28:24,570 likely to mislead and deceive and quote 599 00:28:28,909 --> 00:28:27,029 when it declared on its website that the 600 00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:28,919 currently available vaccine for whooping 601 00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:32,520 cough was unreliable and ineffective so 602 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:34,799 what did fran have to say about angry 603 00:28:40,850 --> 00:28:37,049 gardening she relates the following 604 00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:40,860 story on the website quote it began with 605 00:28:46,340 --> 00:28:43,470 an apple tree kaviraj author of the 606 00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:46,350 ground breaking book homeopathy for farm 607 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:49,110 and garden turned his attention to agro 608 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:50,730 homeopathy the use of homeopathic 609 00:28:56,899 --> 00:28:53,610 remedies on plants and soil following a 610 00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:56,909 chance discovery in Switzerland in 1986 611 00:29:01,490 --> 00:28:59,370 I was treating a family and their 612 00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:01,500 animals who are patients of mine he says 613 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,140 the mother of the family asked if it was 614 00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:06,480 possible to use homeopathy on plants and 615 00:29:11,090 --> 00:29:08,640 I told her it was although I knew 616 00:29:13,310 --> 00:29:11,100 nothing about it she said that being a 617 00:29:15,919 --> 00:29:13,320 horrible wizard I should be able to 618 00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:15,929 figure something out the mother wanted 619 00:29:20,750 --> 00:29:19,080 kaviraj to heal her apple trees which 620 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:20,760 were covered in bright red spots 621 00:29:26,180 --> 00:29:23,610 resembling rust were unusually thirsty 622 00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:26,190 and were producing sour tasting fruit at 623 00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,049 a time when they should have been ripe 624 00:29:33,289 --> 00:29:31,200 for picking the apple trees were on the 625 00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:33,299 south side of the farmhouse they were 626 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:35,279 covered in red spots and the owner said 627 00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:37,049 that the first one had developed the 628 00:29:42,260 --> 00:29:39,870 spots three days earlier after which one 629 00:29:45,019 --> 00:29:42,270 by one all of them caught it which is 630 00:29:48,350 --> 00:29:45,029 quite fast it reminded me of the rapid 631 00:29:50,060 --> 00:29:48,360 onset of scarlet fever in children so 632 00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:50,070 then I said about finding out if the 633 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:51,990 disease displayed other features of 634 00:29:57,860 --> 00:29:55,289 scarlet fever I asked are they thirsty 635 00:30:00,649 --> 00:29:57,870 and she said yes they need watering 636 00:30:02,990 --> 00:30:00,659 three times a day I always work on the 637 00:30:05,899 --> 00:30:03,000 principle that like a three-legged stool 638 00:30:08,750 --> 00:30:05,909 a diagnosis needs three legs to stand on 639 00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:08,760 I had my three legs the speed at which 640 00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:11,520 the disease spread the spots and the 641 00:30:17,270 --> 00:30:13,880 thirst they all pointed to the remedy 642 00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:17,280 belladonna a few days after treating 643 00:30:21,450 --> 00:30:19,740 each tree with The Belladonna remedy the 644 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:21,460 spots had disappeared and the 645 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:24,250 apples were sweet and juicy again this 646 00:30:29,970 --> 00:30:27,370 was my Eureka moment he remembers from 647 00:30:32,820 --> 00:30:29,980 then on I was determined to develop a 648 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:32,830 grow homeopathy further and quote 649 00:30:38,130 --> 00:30:36,010 another website claims quote agro 650 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:38,140 homeopathy not only treats the disease 651 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:40,090 symptoms of the plant and performs 652 00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:42,970 preventive actions but can also treat 653 00:30:47,549 --> 00:30:44,620 traumas retained in the biological 654 00:30:50,639 --> 00:30:47,559 memory of the plant which resulted from 655 00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:50,649 conditions such as forced hybridization 656 00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:53,200 moving to places outside their natural 657 00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:56,289 habitats or exaggerated fertilization 658 00:31:02,909 --> 00:30:58,720 that maximizes production to the extreme 659 00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:02,919 end quote who knew that plants had a 660 00:31:08,250 --> 00:31:05,190 traumatic memory from being forced into 661 00:31:10,590 --> 00:31:08,260 hybridization I would like to know what 662 00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:10,600 dilutions these remedies come in if 663 00:31:15,419 --> 00:31:13,390 indeed they are homeopathic it is likely 664 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:15,429 that the angry gardener is simply 665 00:31:21,810 --> 00:31:17,710 applying more water to them which I'm 666 00:31:24,029 --> 00:31:21,820 told plants rather like well that's it 667 00:31:25,409 --> 00:31:24,039 from me this time this has been highly 668 00:31:28,740 --> 00:31:25,419 Robertson from the Northern Rivers 669 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:28,750 vaccination supporters i'm signing off 670 00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:31,090 to go water my plants and make sure 671 00:31:39,090 --> 00:31:33,220 they've not been too traumatized by 672 00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:48,980 [Music] 673 00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:52,750 and now direct from the cafe at 674 00:32:03,180 --> 00:31:56,080 Australia's science channel its brouhaha 675 00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:03,190 with Kelly Wang forget everything you 676 00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:05,110 know about dinosaurs because it could 677 00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:07,750 all be wrong what have we told you that 678 00:32:11,310 --> 00:32:09,280 dinosaurs may be older than we thought 679 00:32:14,010 --> 00:32:11,320 and that they could have originated in 680 00:32:17,070 --> 00:32:14,020 the UK sounds weird but that's exactly 681 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:17,080 what's been argued at the moment a lot 682 00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:18,370 of what we know about the dinosaur 683 00:32:22,350 --> 00:32:20,380 family tree dates back to a hundred and 684 00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:22,360 thirty years ago but we've learned a 685 00:32:26,910 --> 00:32:25,030 huge amount since then so some cameras 686 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:26,920 researchers did some digging around and 687 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:29,650 found it was time for an update they've 688 00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:31,570 recalculated the evolution of the 689 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:34,120 dinosaurs and it completely changes some 690 00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:35,610 of the things we thought they knew 691 00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:38,320 according to them the dinosaurs emerged 692 00:32:42,510 --> 00:32:40,150 millions of years earlier than we 693 00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:42,520 thought and two fossils found in the UK 694 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:44,350 a place pretty close to the base of this 695 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:47,710 new family tree of course back then the 696 00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:48,970 well looked very different with 697 00:32:54,690 --> 00:32:51,910 supercontinents so the UK wasn't really 698 00:32:56,580 --> 00:32:54,700 the UK as we know it now but what does 699 00:32:59,610 --> 00:32:56,590 this mean for everyone's favorite dino 700 00:33:01,620 --> 00:32:59,620 t-rex well she's going to need to be 701 00:33:04,290 --> 00:33:01,630 reclassified as a different type of 702 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:04,300 dinosaur the new tree suggests the 703 00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:06,250 features they have should really place 704 00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:08,230 them in a different evolutionary group 705 00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:11,110 than what we've known there are still a 706 00:33:16,740 --> 00:33:13,870 lot of questions but it also gives a lot 707 00:33:18,780 --> 00:33:16,750 of answers it could be that just like 708 00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:18,790 the backpacker whacking your local pub 709 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:21,790 dinosaurs to started in the UK and 710 00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:23,890 spread around the world looking for 711 00:33:29,230 --> 00:33:25,870 adventure 712 00:33:38,530 --> 00:33:29,240 for more brouhaha and Australian science 713 00:33:40,390 --> 00:33:38,540 head for ww Australia science not TV now 714 00:33:42,850 --> 00:33:40,400 on Belfast FM we turn to the personal 715 00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:42,860 ads easing going in confidence skeptic 716 00:33:47,290 --> 00:33:44,960 seeks other critical thinkers for fun 717 00:33:49,390 --> 00:33:47,300 laughter and good times must be willing 718 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:49,400 to apply logic liberally and a good 719 00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:51,290 listener expect something new and 720 00:33:55,330 --> 00:33:53,360 interesting every month come and meet me 721 00:33:57,220 --> 00:33:55,340 in Belfast in Northern Ireland if this 722 00:34:00,790 --> 00:33:57,230 sounds like you check out my profile on 723 00:34:16,390 --> 00:34:00,800 bail for skeptics calm music by kevin 724 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:16,400 macleod as mentioned on last week's 725 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:18,169 episode of the skeptic zone the great 726 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:21,770 prediction project is is going on 727 00:34:26,919 --> 00:34:25,610 playing on getting through it's really 728 00:34:29,020 --> 00:34:26,929 interesting collecting all these 729 00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:29,030 predictions now for the past week I've 730 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:31,730 been going through hundreds and hundreds 731 00:34:36,669 --> 00:34:34,010 of back issues of a magazine called 732 00:34:38,380 --> 00:34:36,679 woman's day here in Australia starting 733 00:34:43,390 --> 00:34:38,390 from the year 2000 working up to the 734 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:43,400 present day I'm only up to 2007 I think 735 00:34:49,390 --> 00:34:46,490 and it's quite eerie in a way to go 736 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:49,400 through all these issues week by week 737 00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:51,770 and see the news and the gossip of 738 00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:53,929 celebrities and Royals at the time and 739 00:35:01,570 --> 00:34:57,200 what was happening and a very 740 00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:01,580 disconcerting feeling knowing that for 741 00:35:08,980 --> 00:35:05,510 example Steve Irwin would suddenly die 742 00:35:12,490 --> 00:35:08,990 and working up to that issue then BAM Oh 743 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:12,500 or there was a very lovely actress 744 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:15,050 called Belinda Emmett who actually had 745 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:16,610 the pleasure of meeting many years ago 746 00:35:27,850 --> 00:35:22,310 who sadly died about 11 years ago 12 747 00:35:29,860 --> 00:35:27,860 years ago very young young actress and I 748 00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:29,870 was very sad at the time of course and 749 00:35:35,410 --> 00:35:33,680 seeing her struggles with the cancer in 750 00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,420 the pages of the magazine and knowing 751 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:38,000 sadly despite what was being written 752 00:35:40,930 --> 00:35:38,510 what would 753 00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:40,940 happen eventually it's also interesting 754 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:44,630 to see how things come and go fads come 755 00:35:51,570 --> 00:35:47,570 and go and ideas and what was 756 00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:51,580 interesting at the time and also the 757 00:35:56,380 --> 00:35:54,590 obsession this particular magazine has 758 00:36:01,600 --> 00:35:56,390 with body image well that's no surprise 759 00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:01,610 i i guess and oprah winfrey who makes 760 00:36:05,860 --> 00:36:04,340 many many entries many appearances 761 00:36:11,830 --> 00:36:05,870 throughout the years in this magazine 762 00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:11,840 and also every two or three months comes 763 00:36:18,910 --> 00:36:16,420 up a story about new evidence or new 764 00:36:22,780 --> 00:36:18,920 staggering revelations into the death of 765 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:22,790 Princess Diana so-and-so tells or secret 766 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:25,010 better diaries reveal all this sort of 767 00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:27,760 stuff that's quite interesting and 768 00:36:31,570 --> 00:36:29,990 celebrities who were big at the time who 769 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:31,580 you remember when you see that the 770 00:36:35,740 --> 00:36:33,050 articles and look at the faces but have 771 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:35,750 long since retired or just faded from 772 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:37,970 the limelight or something like that but 773 00:36:42,030 --> 00:36:39,650 speaking of over here's a here's a 774 00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:42,040 prediction I discovered from way back in 775 00:36:49,870 --> 00:36:47,590 2006 by Scott Russell he'll hope said 776 00:36:52,690 --> 00:36:49,880 predicted in the pages of the woman's 777 00:36:56,020 --> 00:36:52,700 day magazine for those of you playing at 778 00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:56,030 home seventh of January 2006 page 77 779 00:37:01,060 --> 00:36:58,490 Oprah Winfrey will widen her 780 00:37:03,730 --> 00:37:01,070 humanitarian efforts in the US and 781 00:37:05,740 --> 00:37:03,740 internationally of course it's all 782 00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:05,750 paving the way for her to be positioned 783 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:08,240 to make the biggest changes she can as 784 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:12,290 US president she will win by a landslide 785 00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:16,850 in twenty twelve or twenty sixteen oops 786 00:37:22,060 --> 00:37:19,880 now I've got the the spreadsheet out to 787 00:37:25,090 --> 00:37:22,070 here in front of me on the on the screen 788 00:37:26,860 --> 00:37:25,100 with many many many many tabs every tear 789 00:37:30,910 --> 00:37:26,870 a tab for every year from to thousands 790 00:37:34,350 --> 00:37:30,920 of 2017 plus what I'm calling my 2017 791 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:34,360 controls which are predictions made by 792 00:37:40,810 --> 00:37:38,930 very non psychic people for exam i'm 793 00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:40,820 going to post these all up online in the 794 00:37:46,090 --> 00:37:43,880 next week hopefully in the next week on 795 00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:46,100 this cat the skipped exam website so 796 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:49,520 there they are out there for all to see 797 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:52,450 and there'll be time stamp 798 00:37:59,069 --> 00:37:55,570 course and so we can't go back and 799 00:38:02,400 --> 00:37:59,079 fiddle them all to them tweak them to 800 00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:02,410 make predictions come true some of the 801 00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:04,270 predictions coming in from non psychics 802 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:05,680 which i'm using for this project 803 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:08,290 somebody predicts a gray horse wins the 804 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:11,170 Melbourne Cup well you know most horses 805 00:38:14,910 --> 00:38:13,450 win the Melbourne Cup a sort of light 806 00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:14,920 brown or brown I think so that's 807 00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:17,680 interesting Buckingham Palace targeted 808 00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:20,230 in terror attack well I hope not but 809 00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:23,369 with the recent news out of the UK it's 810 00:38:28,290 --> 00:38:25,740 well we'll see what happens there an 811 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:28,300 advancement in spinal cord treatment 812 00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:30,010 will make the headlines well I hope so I 813 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:32,260 certainly hope so that's a prediction I 814 00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,240 hope comes true and here's another 815 00:38:38,849 --> 00:38:36,400 prediction I hope comes true sir david 816 00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:38,859 attenborough will survive the year let's 817 00:38:42,810 --> 00:38:41,440 hope so and the next and the next but 818 00:38:44,579 --> 00:38:42,820 just flipping through all the ones i 819 00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:44,589 have at random so i will click the tab 820 00:38:51,810 --> 00:38:50,230 for 2007 2007 10 years ago let's see 821 00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:51,820 some of the interesting predictions that 822 00:38:59,339 --> 00:38:57,520 people foresaw in 2006 for 2007 there 823 00:39:01,079 --> 00:38:59,349 will be a major health problem with a 824 00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:01,089 very senior member of the royal family 825 00:39:06,690 --> 00:39:03,670 perhaps Prince Philip now this is 826 00:39:10,170 --> 00:39:06,700 interesting because over the years the 827 00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:10,180 Queen and Prince Philip feature quite a 828 00:39:19,099 --> 00:39:15,310 lot and one can't help that wonder is it 829 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:19,109 because of their old age maybe possibly 830 00:39:23,609 --> 00:39:21,970 they seem to appear quite a lot when it 831 00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:23,619 comes to health worries or health 832 00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:26,140 concerns and if people in their 80s then 833 00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:28,270 and 90s now didn't have the odd health 834 00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:30,430 where he'll health concern that would be 835 00:39:34,770 --> 00:39:33,310 interesting now a lot of these 836 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:34,780 predictions I've noticed over the years 837 00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:37,290 are predicting what people generally 838 00:39:44,370 --> 00:39:40,960 expect will happen as opposed to some 839 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:44,380 magical revelation out of the blue about 840 00:39:50,099 --> 00:39:46,930 something you're not supposed to see or 841 00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:50,109 think is going to happen for example in 842 00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:53,740 2007 somebody predicted John Howard and 843 00:39:58,770 --> 00:39:56,470 who was prime minister at the time John 844 00:40:01,859 --> 00:39:58,780 Howard may not be reelected his likely 845 00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:01,869 successor is Malcolm Turnbull now that 846 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:04,240 was a general sort of feeling at the 847 00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:07,130 time now in the event this predict 848 00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:09,780 so it was half right in half wrong 849 00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:11,910 because John Howard did lose the next 850 00:40:17,780 --> 00:40:14,880 election so he wasn't reelected but his 851 00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:17,790 successor was Tony Abbott not Malcolm 852 00:40:24,579 --> 00:40:20,160 Turnbull although Malcolm Turnbull later 853 00:40:26,660 --> 00:40:24,589 did succeed in the leadership so 854 00:40:28,190 --> 00:40:26,670 generally speaking is that wrong or 855 00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:28,200 right this is one of the things to which 856 00:40:31,609 --> 00:40:29,520 is interesting about this whole project 857 00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:31,619 is some predictions are two predictions 858 00:40:36,799 --> 00:40:34,079 in one and half the prediction is 859 00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,809 writing the other half is wrong for 860 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:38,640 example there was another prediction I 861 00:40:45,049 --> 00:40:42,089 saw where a certain political party was 862 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:45,059 predicted to win an election by a by a 863 00:40:52,059 --> 00:40:49,170 certain huge majority in reality they 864 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:52,069 did win but just scraped over the line 865 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:55,410 now is that prediction wrong or right or 866 00:40:59,780 --> 00:40:57,450 is it too vague or is it half and half 867 00:41:02,120 --> 00:40:59,790 there are many like that it's it's an 868 00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:02,130 interesting process now of course not 869 00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:04,980 all the predictions are wrong or too 870 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:07,140 vague or expected some are simply 871 00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:12,690 correct and I think we have been saying 872 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:14,190 this for many years when talking about 873 00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:17,609 predictions in fact the former president 874 00:41:22,549 --> 00:41:19,020 of these trans skeptics Barry Williams 875 00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,559 is on record talking about predictions 876 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:25,200 many years ago saying you make a lot of 877 00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:27,450 predictions no psychics make a lot of 878 00:41:33,289 --> 00:41:30,540 predictions most are wrong some arrived 879 00:41:35,059 --> 00:41:33,299 very fewer right and you just emphasize 880 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:35,069 the ones you got right and you can dine 881 00:41:38,539 --> 00:41:36,690 out on those especially if you get one 882 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:38,549 that's very unlikely which comes true 883 00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:40,530 and that I've been finding is the case 884 00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:43,430 in this project here's one made in 2009 885 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:47,460 by Milton black an astrologer in the 886 00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:49,770 newspaper The Daily Telegraph who is 887 00:41:57,099 --> 00:41:52,400 speaking about an upcoming lottery draw 888 00:42:00,559 --> 00:41:57,109 draw number 802 in the odds lotto 889 00:42:02,569 --> 00:42:00,569 numerologist astrologist and psychic 890 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:02,579 Milton Black said Tuesday night's 891 00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:05,010 jackpot was definitely going to go off 892 00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:07,200 and would probably be shared rather than 893 00:42:11,569 --> 00:42:10,079 a single person win now what you also 894 00:42:14,089 --> 00:42:11,579 have to do is go back and see the 895 00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:14,099 circumstances around any particular 896 00:42:20,420 --> 00:42:16,380 prediction so I went back and I saw that 897 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:20,430 that was a case of a jackpot bill 898 00:42:27,110 --> 00:42:24,690 over some weeks so it was getting a lot 899 00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:27,120 you know who was the money was was 900 00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:29,880 building up indeed when it finally went 901 00:42:37,820 --> 00:42:35,760 off it was 53 million dollars now a lot 902 00:42:40,310 --> 00:42:37,830 of people were queuing up to buy tickets 903 00:42:42,110 --> 00:42:40,320 as the money increased and I'm sure 904 00:42:43,340 --> 00:42:42,120 you've seen the same situation in no 905 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:43,350 matter what country you're living in 906 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:46,530 where a jackpot builds so more and more 907 00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:50,970 people get interested and did you get 908 00:42:56,990 --> 00:42:53,820 the queues forming and so there's more 909 00:43:00,170 --> 00:42:57,000 chance much more chance that when it 910 00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:00,180 goes off when the numbers come up more 911 00:43:04,010 --> 00:43:01,920 than one person will have the lucky 912 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:04,020 numbers which is exactly the case for 913 00:43:10,610 --> 00:43:07,410 this prediction so we discover that when 914 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:10,620 the prize did go off as predicted on the 915 00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:14,850 following Tuesday night the prize was 916 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:17,760 shared by two people two people were 917 00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:20,370 getting the right numbers now in all 918 00:43:27,020 --> 00:43:22,260 fairness I guess I'd have to call that 919 00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:27,030 prediction correct Milton like predicted 920 00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:29,550 what would happen and it happened but 921 00:43:37,630 --> 00:43:32,070 then again would I put that correct but 922 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:37,640 expected column correct but not too 923 00:43:42,530 --> 00:43:40,650 amazing prediction column it's an 924 00:43:45,530 --> 00:43:42,540 interesting process and here's another 925 00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:45,540 one made in 2006 by Scott Russell Hill 926 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:48,960 Woman's Day seventh of January 2006 page 927 00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:51,810 77 Prince William and Kate Milton we 928 00:43:55,790 --> 00:43:53,760 won't see much of William and Kate in 929 00:43:59,330 --> 00:43:55,800 public but their relationship will 930 00:44:01,510 --> 00:43:59,340 flourish he turns 24 this year and says 931 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:01,520 he has much to do before getting married 932 00:44:06,290 --> 00:44:04,410 but the search for a partner is over 933 00:44:09,860 --> 00:44:06,300 they expect wedding bells for them 934 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:09,870 around his 30th birthday well there you 935 00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:13,770 go ah Kate and William were married when 936 00:44:22,490 --> 00:44:19,710 William was uh just over 29 so around 937 00:44:25,730 --> 00:44:22,500 his 30th birthday 29 30 what do you 938 00:44:27,980 --> 00:44:25,740 think and that prediction was made some 939 00:44:29,930 --> 00:44:27,990 years before so that's looking good for 940 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:29,940 a correct prediction as far as I'm 941 00:44:33,290 --> 00:44:31,410 concerned every now and then there 942 00:44:34,289 --> 00:44:33,300 simply are correct predictions but 943 00:44:35,999 --> 00:44:34,299 before we wind up 944 00:44:39,259 --> 00:44:36,009 a segment maybe you'd like to know some 945 00:44:42,569 --> 00:44:39,269 of the predictions made for this year ah 946 00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:42,579 now earthquakes come up quite a lot over 947 00:44:45,749 --> 00:44:44,079 the years in predictions and you won't 948 00:44:49,049 --> 00:44:45,759 be surprised that people are predicting 949 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:49,059 earthquakes for San Francisco this year 950 00:44:53,009 --> 00:44:51,130 well of course San Francisco will have 951 00:44:55,469 --> 00:44:53,019 earthquakes this here is the the signs 952 00:44:57,150 --> 00:44:55,479 that we're interested in and indeed the 953 00:45:00,239 --> 00:44:57,160 prediction says San Francisco will 954 00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:00,249 suffer a big quake earthquakes to also 955 00:45:06,839 --> 00:45:04,630 predicted for Tokyo Prince Harry getting 956 00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:06,849 married to the disapproval of the royal 957 00:45:13,650 --> 00:45:10,089 family king tides destroying coastal 958 00:45:16,799 --> 00:45:13,660 beaches as opposed to inland features I 959 00:45:19,949 --> 00:45:16,809 guess Donald Trump not lasting as US 960 00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:19,959 president well we'll see and here's an 961 00:45:23,999 --> 00:45:21,689 interesting one by Milton black again 962 00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:24,009 predicted for this year Prime Minister 963 00:45:28,439 --> 00:45:25,900 Malcolm Turnbull will have an extremely 964 00:45:30,859 --> 00:45:28,449 challenging year especially in February 965 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:30,869 march june july november and december 966 00:45:34,739 --> 00:45:32,890 well if the prime minister of a country 967 00:45:36,029 --> 00:45:34,749 didn't have a challenging year then I 968 00:45:39,419 --> 00:45:36,039 don't think that'd be doing their job 969 00:45:40,979 --> 00:45:39,429 and the last dreadful prediction i'll 970 00:45:43,620 --> 00:45:40,989 leave you with which should send 971 00:45:46,229 --> 00:45:43,630 shockwaves of fear around the world it's 972 00:45:49,249 --> 00:45:46,239 predicted this year coffee crops 973 00:45:51,479 --> 00:45:49,259 destroyed and a rise in coffee prices 974 00:45:57,689 --> 00:45:51,489 well let's hope that one doesn't come 975 00:46:00,239 --> 00:45:57,699 true so that's an update to the ongoing 976 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:00,249 prediction project project prediction 977 00:46:04,049 --> 00:46:02,890 the great predicting project in a couple 978 00:46:05,999 --> 00:46:04,059 of weeks I'm going to be meeting with 979 00:46:08,279 --> 00:46:06,009 some friends from the the stranger 980 00:46:10,289 --> 00:46:08,289 things group and we're going to be doing 981 00:46:13,259 --> 00:46:10,299 some more work poring through some of 982 00:46:15,449 --> 00:46:13,269 these predictions and trying to make 983 00:46:17,549 --> 00:46:15,459 sense of them but the part of the 984 00:46:20,110 --> 00:46:17,559 project which is the collecting of all 985 00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:20,120 these predictions goes on 986 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:22,790 I've got many issues of this current 987 00:46:28,420 --> 00:46:25,570 magazine norms day to get through yet 988 00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:28,430 I'll end up going through over 800 I 989 00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:31,040 think and then I have to start work on 990 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:33,110 another popular magazine here in 991 00:46:38,380 --> 00:46:36,410 Australia called new idea another weekly 992 00:46:41,380 --> 00:46:38,390 magazine so there will be over 800 of 993 00:46:43,090 --> 00:46:41,390 those to get through to sometimes it's 994 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:43,100 looking for a needle in a haystack and I 995 00:46:47,170 --> 00:46:45,200 wish I could predict the the final 996 00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:47,180 conclusions while I probably can but 997 00:46:53,710 --> 00:46:50,510 i'll keep you all informed as the year 998 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:53,720 goes on and maybe you would like to make 999 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:56,450 your own set of predictions for the rest 1000 00:47:09,530 --> 00:46:57,290 of this year 1001 00:47:12,420 --> 00:47:09,540 [Music] 1002 00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:12,430 Mike watch your guide to quackery health 1003 00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:15,220 fraud and intelligent decisions operated 1004 00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:18,400 by Steven Barrett MD quite watch is now 1005 00:47:22,530 --> 00:47:20,260 an 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